| Summary: | Adept crash and high CPU use | ||
|---|---|---|---|
| Product: | TDE | Reporter: | Alex Couture <ac586133> |
| Component: | tdebase | Assignee: | Timothy Pearson <kb9vqf> |
| Status: | RESOLVED WONTFIX | ||
| Severity: | normal | CC: | ac586133, bugwatch, kb9vqf, michele.calgaro |
| Priority: | P5 | ||
| Version: | R14.0.x [Trinity] | ||
| Hardware: | Other | ||
| OS: | Linux | ||
| Compiler Version: | TDE Version String: | ||
| Application Version: | Application Name: | ||
| Attachments: | Adept kcrash output | ||
Alex, is this still happening? Hi, Let's say that for the moment, I don't see much reasons to use Ubuntu (or Debian). I don't personally use Adept, but I did launch it during R14 testing, just to see if it works. Can you try it on your computer? I used Ubuntu to be able to use nightly builds of TDE, to report bugs. These bugs never get attention, so I don't see the use of reporting other bugs. I have to keep using 3.5.13.2, because key features (such as kppp) that I use at home are broken on R14, and will probably not be fixed at all. Have a great 2016! -Alexandre TDE devs should really look at what Mate is doing in every way, and also ask Why Mate has its place in debian, but not TDE. Also, time advance and Plasma 5 is agreeable to use, stable, and does not behaves as strangely as KDE 4. It is also lighter and faster than KDE4 (not dead too) was. TDE should really be re-worked, because it takes much longer to load than Plasma 5 on my hardware, which is unacceptable in 2015, considering that TDE is from the 2004-era. Logout too. What could be done, to: 1. Make it available to more persons 2. Bring it to the current century. Because TDE will die with its users if it continues like that. 3. Make it faster 4. Accept to have at least one ad, if it can bring some money to TDE. It is just elitist to not do so. -Alexandre >These bugs never get attention, so I don't see the use of reporting other bugs. Hi Alex, I understand your frustration in not seeing many bugs fixed. It has been a very busy pedior as I already wrote in one email. Nevertheless not reporting bugs will never get any attention for those bugs, while reporting them may give them a chance (small of course, since the developers are very few) but not null. Maybe the bug will be fixed 2 years later when someone picks it up, but if the bug was never reported it would never be fixed (unless of course a developer encounter the same bug and decided that it needs to be fixed ;-) ) >I have to keep using 3.5.13.2, because key features (such as kppp) that I use >at home are broken on R14, and will probably not be fixed at all. Can you give us a list of bugs that prevent you moving to R14 in a stable manner? If there are only a few (possible one the kppp one), we could give them some priority since you are one of the users that report several bugs and do testing, which is quite an important job for us developer. Again, please bear with the TDE development team: we are few and we have all been extremely busy in the last 4-5 months. Nevertheless we are trying to improve as much as we can in the allowed time. Hi, Michele, I fully understand that it is not your fault at all. Life goes by, and we are all way too busy. The thing that completely pisses me off TDE is the hostile and unfriendly community: user mailing list. Just seeing how they act is enough to know that TDE can't go anywhere, because users will cry at every single bit of improvement. They are also not respectful at all for others individuals and other's work. What would have been great is to have the good 3.5.13.x branch continued, as it did not had all those bugs introduced by the renaming and tqt stuff, but now it seems a little bit too late. Have a great day! -Alexandre (In reply to Alex Couture from comment #5) > Hi, > > Michele, I fully understand that it is not your fault at all. Life goes by, > and we are all way too busy. > > The thing that completely pisses me off TDE is the hostile and unfriendly > community: user mailing list. Just seeing how they act is enough to know > that TDE can't go anywhere, because users will cry at every single bit of > improvement. They are also not respectful at all for others individuals and > other's work. I'd be careful here. Yes, we have a few loudmouths on the list, however the idea is not (and was never) to duplicate the modern KDE / Windows interface. Many of your suggestions have been along those lines, and as that conflicts with the main design goal (a stable, powerful interface for engineering work and other complex tasks, not a personal information manager or other cell-phone inspired system) most of the cosmetic changes have been vetoed. I would encourage you to look into industrial UI design; the emphasis is less on pretty pictures / fluff and more on presenting the maximum amount of relevant information possible to the user at one time. Relevant information for most engineering workloads does *not* include metadata links and social information; in fact, presenting a whole lot of metadata-dredged clutter (a.k.a. Akodanai and similar) *detracts* from the original design goal by both taking space away from relevant data and controls and also forcing the user to ignore said clutter on the screen. By the way, this is not being hostile, this is simply (re)stating TDE's primary goal. ;-) I have appreciated your testing over time and hope you can continue doing so! Adept will be dropped in R14.1 series, so no more work will be done on adept. |
Created attachment 2242 [details] Adept kcrash output Hi, When starting adept on Ubuntu 14.04 with R14 nightly builds, adept starts, but it stays at the ''Please wait'' message and consumes high CPU use. When I close the app, I get the kcrash output. As of adept and kpackage, are they still in a working state with recent package management mechanisms? Thank you! -Alexandre