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Bug 2536 - New icon theme compatible with TDE: Masalla
Summary: New icon theme compatible with TDE: Masalla
Status: NEW
Alias: None
Product: TDE
Classification: Unclassified
Component: tdebase (show other bugs)
Version: R14.1.x [Trinity]
Hardware: Other Linux
: P5 needs packaging
Assignee: Michele Calgaro
URL:
Depends on:
Blocks: 2967
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Reported: 2015-10-06 17:51 CDT by Alex Couture
Modified: 2018-10-30 22:35 CDT (History)
4 users (show)

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Attachments
icon detection bug (146.57 KB, image/png)
2016-02-22 06:18 CST, Alex Couture
Details
T-logo icons for Masalla, on the model of the K-logo icons (181.97 KB, application/gzip)
2016-03-25 14:19 CDT, ktbz.aoneshot.eliddell
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Description Alex Couture 2015-10-06 17:51:39 CDT
Hi,

I found an icon theme that is fitting and working very well with TDE. Icons are colorful and easy to understand.

Here is the download link:
http://xfce-look.org/content/show.php/Masalla+Icon+Theme?content=170413

Now my rant:
In life you need to evolve, or you'll evaporate. TDE badly needs to have and show something new to the users and reviewers. Crystal SVG icon theme is visually outdated, ugly and makes everyone think that TDE is still living one or two decades agos. A product that evolves just visually is a dead-end, but a product that evolves just under the hood is a dead-end too.
TDE should provide the choice of 2 defaults settings. One for old conservators, and one for the future.

Icon theme KFaenza too should be considered: bug 1835

Thank you!
-Alexandre
Comment 1 Alex Couture 2015-10-14 17:13:51 CDT
As written on dev mailing list:

Good! I think that a good solution would be to add a page to KPersonalizer where the icon theme could be choosen, with a nice little picture for each one. (I am ready to make these, just ask for it) Maybe also making sure that all widget styles appear in the KPersonalizer list too?


-Alexandre
Comment 2 Michele Calgaro 2015-10-15 20:37:54 CDT
Let's proceed in this order:
1) add the new theme to TDE
2) add the new page to KPersonalizer

Also let's rename KPersonalizer to TDEPersonalizer.
Comment 3 Michele Calgaro 2015-10-24 10:31:10 CDT
I had a look at the icon theme. The stated license is as follow:

"Icons are licensed under the Creative Commons License (CC BY-NC-SA 4.0).
Some parts of this work is under GPL-3.0+ License".

As far as I can google it, CC BY-SA 4.0 is one-way compatible with GPL 3.0, but I have found no mention about CC BY-NC-SA 4.0 and GPL 3.0 compatibility.
-NC- stands for Non-Commercial and should therefore not be a problem with GPL 3.0, but unless there is a clear indication that CC BY-NC-SA 4.0 is GPL 3.0, we can not usd the theme in TDE.
Comment 4 Michele Calgaro 2015-10-25 07:58:36 CDT
As pointed out in the ML (http://trinity-devel.pearsoncomputing.net/?0::14640), CC BY-NC-SA 4.0 is not GPL 3.0 compatible, so we can not use the proposed theme in TDE.
Comment 5 Alex Couture 2015-11-05 09:26:58 CST
Hi,

By browsing kde-look.org, I saw that the new version of Masalla icon theme 08 is now GPL 3 compatible. It means that it could now be used in TDE.

I did nothing about it. I didn't even asked the author; it just happened!

Here you can find it:
http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/Masalla+Icon+Theme?content=170415

Have a great day!
-Alexandre
Comment 6 Michele Calgaro 2016-02-12 08:16:46 CST
Alex, I am looking at this right now (finally).
Masalla icons look quite good and I already agree with Slavek that we will add this to TDE.
Anyhow there is some graphical rework necessary before we can add this icon set, specifically we need to modify KDE into TDE in all icons that are currently KDE related. For example the main menu "start" button shows "KDE" and we need the equivalent that shows "TDE".

Are you willing to take care of this conversion and send us the modified icons where required? Then we can add this icon set.
Comment 7 Alex Couture 2016-02-12 08:28:42 CST
Hi,

No, for previously said reasons. I am now using Plasma 5 successfully on most of my systems, and TDE's userbase attitude does give me no good reasons anymore to use this software set, or to produce any TDE related stuff.


Sorry!
-Alexandre
Comment 8 Michele Calgaro 2016-02-13 08:17:07 CST
Ok, understood. Then most likely this icon set will not be added, unless we can find some other volunteers willing to rework the KDE icons
Comment 9 Alex Couture 2016-02-14 19:20:17 CST
Hi,

This icon theme is under active development, which means that is would have to be re-adapted at each releases. I do not think that it is that important to adapt it.

I wanted to share with you the folder containing most of the artwork I did for TDE, as it may get lost in history. Some are unpublished, some not accepted and some are not 100% finished, but maybe someone could be interested in it:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B37cGFKZ9yM8RnpCYUFILV9nRE0/view?usp=sharing


Thanks!
-Alexandre
Comment 10 Michele Calgaro 2016-02-21 00:48:48 CST
Hi Alex,
thanks for making available the material you produced.

By the way, it looks like I have found someone willing to work on the kde->tde renaming, so sooner or later Masalla will be added to TDE ;-)
Comment 11 Alex Couture 2016-02-21 15:34:01 CST
Hi,

No problems! But it is not useful at all to change icons, because most are already not containing K, and it is a project under active development, so it means way too much maintenance for TDE. And it is not ugly enough to be accepted as part of tde :) :) :)

Have a great day!
-Alexandre
Comment 12 Michele Calgaro 2016-02-22 05:02:10 CST
> No problems! But it is not useful at all to change icons, because most are 
> already not containing K, and it is a project under active development, so it 
> means way too much maintenance for TDE. 

I haven't made a list of how many icons need renaming yet, but at least the main menu icon needs to be done because at the moment it shows a nice 'KDE' one :-)

> And it is not ugly enough to be accepted as part of tde :) :) :)
I think I know what u really mean here :-) It is sad you decided not to contribute more work to TDE any more because of some user feedback.
IMO you did a great job over the years and really hope you could reconsider your decision one day :-)
Anyhow good luck for whatever you will work on in the future, even if not TDE  ;-)
Comment 13 Alex Couture 2016-02-22 06:18:05 CST
Created attachment 2627 [details]
icon detection bug

Hi,

This is a bug, because here is a screenshot of masalla on kde4 on PCLinuxOS. No settings has been changed at all, except the icon theme changed to the actual version of masalla (find it on kde-look). I also use it on Kubuntu 15.10 with Plasma 5, when flaky .deb package management don't decide to render my system unbootable.

-Alexandre
Comment 14 Michele Calgaro 2016-03-23 09:04:53 CDT
Luckily not much rework is necessary for this icon theme.
Here is the list of files that need to be added.

Add
/usr/share/icons/masalla/apps/YYxYY/desktop-environment-tde.png
/usr/share/icons/masalla/apps/YYxYY/tde.png
/usr/share/icons/masalla/apps/YYxYY/tmenu.png
/usr/share/icons/masalla/apps/YYxYY/twin.png
/usr/share/icons/masalla/apps/YYxYY/process-idle-tde.png
/usr/share/icons/masalla/apps/YYxYY/start-here-tde.png

starting from the following as example (replace K into T)

/usr/share/icons/masalla/apps/YYxYY/desktop-environment-kde.png
/usr/share/icons/masalla/apps/YYxYY/kde.png
/usr/share/icons/masalla/apps/YYxYY/kmenu.png
/usr/share/icons/masalla/apps/YYxYY/kwin.png
/usr/share/icons/masalla/apps/YYxYY/process-idle-kde.png
/usr/share/icons/masalla/apps/YYxYY/start-here-kde.png

where YY represents the different icon sizes available.

E., as discussed some time ago, can you take a look at this when you have time?
Thanks a lot
Comment 15 ktbz.aoneshot.eliddell 2016-03-25 14:19:47 CDT
Created attachment 2641 [details]
T-logo icons for Masalla, on the model of the K-logo icons
Comment 16 Michele Calgaro 2016-03-28 09:20:07 CDT
Thanks E. (as usual)
they look great. Will add them when I adding Masalla to TDE for good :-)